Maneuver Warfare Debate

The article by William Owen and the response by Col. Eric Walters have ignited a lively debate over on the Small Wars Journal.  Go take a look:

You’ll find yourself in a post-graduate seminar on modern conflict.  Kudos to Dave Dilegge and SWJ for kicking this off!

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4 Responses to “Maneuver Warfare Debate”

  1. Barryon 18 Sep 2008 at 5:18 pm 1

    Debate seems to revolve around definition at SWJ

  2. Barryon 18 Sep 2008 at 6:47 pm 2

    W. Owen fails to appreciate the novelty of the stormtrooper methods grenades over rifle, flamethrowers and especially the artillery preparation which emphisised short extremely intense shelling with the intention of dislocating comand and control. Why did the British, who had lost a lot of men trying to advance, not succeed with attacks if the stormtroopers were not doing anything very different to them.

    Owen needs to include a discussion of WW2 if he wants to debunk Maneuver Warfare’s best example.

    Simpkin’s point about MW being useful as an aggressive attacking strategy is a good one, likewise the defender, being assessed as weaker, would try to show it could inflict unaceptable casualties making it a too costly. Naturally the deterring effect of attrition would have failed in the event of a MW attack actually coming.

    The most successful armies had a high tempo attack.

  3. Maxon 18 Sep 2008 at 6:59 pm 3

    If you really understand air to air combat, in experiencing it,
    a mastery, or by study to a deep level of comprehension you understand
    manuvere warfare instinctively.

    Air to air combat IS nothing but Manuvere warfare, nothing else, by very nature.

    If you understand and fully appreicate what that is, you know Boyd.

    The difficulty lies with that experience or knowlaged gleened,
    without really knowing, you merely go through the motions,
    and that’s the problem.


  4. Maxon 19 Sep 2008 at 5:59 am 4

    Link Follows.

    THINK, in terms of OODA, manuvere warfare, entrapment, etc.

    Interesting as well, is the Taliban undermining support and sympathy
    amounst the locals as the western interests are accused and often
    guilty of ?

    Taliban opens new front in Pakistan
    The Taliban has laid down the gauntlet to Pakistan’s overstretched security forces by opening up a new front in the north of the country.

    By Isambard Wilkinson in Maidan
    Last Updated: 7:12PM BST 18 Sep 2008

    Taliban opens new front in Pakistan: Map of North-West frontier province

    Militants have used fear and intimidation to clear a swathe of territory in the North West Frontier Province (NWFP) to establish training camps and for taking sanctuary, and have set up their headquarters in Maidan, in the rugged, green hills of the Upper Dir valley.

    “We know the local militants but we don’t know the foreigners and outsiders who have arrived here. They are the mostly hardline, well-trained fighters,” said Hussain Shah, a local leader from the NWFP’s ruling Awami National Party (ANP).

    The Taliban encroachment has seeped from Pakistan’s seven tribal areas into adjacent areas nominally under full government control. In Maidan The Daily Telegraph witnessed armed Taliban fighters in fields surrounding the town.

    Last week 20 more locals were killed and 30 wounded when militants hurled grenades and fired indiscriminately into a Dir mosque.